An Open Letter To Blogger and Rose DesRochers: Do Sites Like This One Hinder or Help Police?
For a post I’ve been working on regarding social networking sites that still allow child porn and pedophilia rings to operate – including Live Journal and yes, even Blogger – I came across a Blogger Help thread started by a pedophile who had been discovered and ousted by a Blogger user. He was begging Blogger to delete the person’s account because he didn’t think it was right they exposed him. This man has had multiple accounts on various sites around the net, where he poses as teenagers in many cases to gather information for pedophiles and child abductors.
Eventually, anti-pedophiles discovered his comment and antagonized him, the way all pedophiles should be!
There was one commenter – Rose DesRochers, who is an (perhaps self-appointed) official Blogger feedback administrator – who chose to chastise people and groups who expose pedophiles on the net and on blogger.
Here are her comments:
- “……. if you were really concerned about the online safety of children then you would report this to http://www.cybertipline.com/ and not try to take the law into you own hands.Catching real pedophiles is a job for the professionals, not a group of untrained volunteers like yourself. You may think that you’re doing good, but you could very well being get in the way of criminal investigations. I feel that protecting those who are unable to protect themselves should be our first priority- and it sure is mine yet I still cannot help feel that a number of untrained individuals like yourself are taking law into your own hands & keep in mind that different countries have different laws. At one time Canadian enforcement didn’t have the technology needed to effectively confront sexual exploitation of children on the internet; however thanks to Bill Gates and Microsoft the Child Exploitation Tracking System is possible. We know that there are sworn officers and undercover FBI agents posing as children in chat rooms like those provided by Yahoo!, MySpace, AOL and other sites. Let them do their job. Also groups like Kinsa http://www.kinsa.net made up of trained individuals are working hard to protect children. At the Child Exploitation Section of the Toronto Police, they deal with that reality every day. The article can be read here http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060310/wfive_sa… There’s children being harmed and we need to do something about that. We can help through education and letting officers do their job and through reporting cases we see of internet luring to the authorities. Now, I know that my reply will spark debate and I’m not trying to do that or not acknowledge what you are trying to do, which is admirable, but I just think that you are going about it the wrong way. Trained officers do not operate in this manner & I just don’t think you should be either. You are not providing a service at all. Rose “
Then this response – which was not made to Rose – to a comment made by an anti-pedophile blogger:
- “Your legal groups? I don’t think a group of untrained volunteers qualifies as a legal group unless you are referring to something else? Doesn’t matter! Legal law enforcement does not operate in this manner, now would you all mind taking this somewhere else as these groups are not the place for it. If you believe that he is involved in something illegal and have reported him to authorities than let them handle it. If a crime has been committed here, you may be just getting in the way.”
The ironic twist here is that Rose knows the issues with Blogger permitting child rapists and child porn because just before the above comments, she posted this one condemning Blogger for allowing what others on Blogger are trying to have removed:
- “….They [Blogger] were also the host of Kevin Ray Underwood’s blog. Kevin was the grocery store clerk accused of killing a 10-year-old neighbor and planning to eat her corpse. Let us not forget about Joseph Duncan, the registered sex-offender who murdered the family of Shasta Groene before abducting her. Guess what? He had a blog hosted on Blogger too. …….. A marriage and family therapist intern is trying to convince Google todrop a blog that promotes “boy love,” sexual relationships between men and adolescents and what about all the girl love blog sites on blogger being run by admitted pedophiles. It is no secret that Blogger/Blogspot is a haven for pedophiles. These pedophile sites clearly violate the Blogger’s (TOS) and Blogger has been contacted numerous times about this by me and other concerned bloggers , but they are NOT willing to remove these pedophileblogs….”
My first question to you, Rose, is why so hostile toward people trying to expose child rapists, pedophiles, pornographers? Especially when you agree there is a viable threat on Blogger.
It may interest you to know, Ms. DesRochers, that sites like mine, Warriors For Innocence, Absolute Zero United, etc… DO work hand in hand with law enforcement. We’re even supported by them!
We are in communication with them and there have been many reports of people like us being instrumental in the arrests of child rapists, pedophiles, online predators, and child pornographers.
We are commended by law enforcement, including the FBI and The Center For Missing and Exploited Children for our extensive research and educational sites and services, which arm parents and guardians with valuable resources to keep their children safe from these criminals.
We are civilians that aid law enforcement in a task more daunting and overwhelming than your pretty little head could possibly comprehend.
As a matter of fact, there are blogs on the internet praising sites like ours for our efforts and help with arrests, sites like Wikisposure and Perverted Justice, and blogs like this one for instance: Disgusting Pervert Exposed By Ablsolute Zero , in a case where law enforcement was able to arrest and convict Johnathon Johnson, who raped children and allowed men to rape his daughter, thanks to the efforts and alerts by Absolute Zero United volunteers – The same men and women you say are doing more harm than good and are “just getting in the way”.
You say we should just alert authorities and walk away. Well, that may be fine and dandy for you, Ms. Rose-colored-glasses, but the number of cases for law enforcement to wade through is so staggering, by the time they are actually able to check up on a tip, the damage is already done.
People like Warriors For Innocence, Absolute Zero United, Perverted Justice, etc… have hundreds of volunteers undercover in pedophile chat rooms, in online pedophile rings, on child porn sites. They are able to gather names, dates, places, times, and targets in the amount of time it takes for law enforcement to open the case file – if they even get to it. That information is immediately turned over to local law enforcement as well as the FBI’s Center For Missing And Exploited Children. Yes, Ms. Rose, just as you suggested. Imagine what you learn when you actually take the time to learn!
There is a reason law enforcement stands behind what we do. We HELP them! We FRIGHTEN pedophiles! We EXPOSE rapists BEFORE they are able to reach their target! We remind these child abusers that not everyone, like you and Blogger, will stand quietly by while they target our children.
There is a reason most of us have direct phone numbers to agents at The Center For Missing and Exploited Children, Ms. Rose, and people like you do not. Why people like us are on a first name bases with these agents and people like you are not. Why people like us are privy to information of persons of interest and arrests before even the media and people like you are not.
So, Ms. Rose DesRochers, you rush off and have your hair done, nails polished, and go to that ever-important Tupperware Party, where you’ll gossip about the latest celebrity fashions and why Brangelina have so many kids. We’ll continue spending our free time gathering information for police and for parents to be aware so they, and you, don’t have to see the images we do of infant rape, child sodomy, child torture, videos and images of little bodies being handed from one rapist to the next, all so we can help in the arrest of these people and help in the efforts to keep the children in your life safe.