The Ultimate Evil

A Child Abuse Awareness Blog

Wiccans: Beware The Frosts!

***WARNING: LINKS IN ENTRY NOT SUITABLE FOR CHILDREN***

I wish to say first and foremost that this entry wishes not to tarnish the Wiccan or Pagan paths but to expose those who would use vulnerable newcomers to sexually abuse them and/or their children.

I have previously blogged about Catholic priests and have links to the right for survivors of Catholic priest sexual abuse. Although I have Wiccan friends and walk some Pagan paths, I will not single out any religion/path while covering up for others. There are child abusers in every religion and culture.

Some religions condone the sexualization of a child, which I will come to in future posts. Wicca, as a spiritual path, does not but there is a pedophile couple who have been using Wicca to supply their vulgar needs for over 30 years. They are Gavin and Yvonne Frost, and the title of their book, which details the rape and molestation of children as being part of Wicca membership, is ” Good Witch’s Bible”

I was sent this link to AJ Drew’s Pagan Nation post, which outlines the offensive and illegal material from the book. The books passages are in quotes with AJ Drew’s explanation following each pertinent segment.

I try not to include explicit material on my site because I want it to be open for children along with their parents to read together so they can understand the dangers out there and their parents can easily discuss what they find here. Occasionaly, I will post a warning like I did at the top of this entry in the event some content cannot be helped.

Since some of the material in AJ Drew’s post is very explicit, as he quotes directly from some of the more vulgar passages of the book, I will not re-post it here. I provide the link for parents to see it for themselves, but I encourage them not to read it in the presense of their child as this pedophile couple details acts of intercourse with children (age 10 and possibly younger) – by sponsors as well as parental units and masturbation.

There are chapters of this book that also detail legalities members of the coven should follow to be safe from prosecution should their activities become known to police. I find it a bit arrogant as well as ignorant and amusing that they think signatures by the men they encourage to bed little girls will absolve them from any legal accountability in the even the child, the child’s parents, or some outside party reports the rape and molestions to police. I also find it absurd they think a child could enter into any such contract, but this is the sort of mentality of this couple and of anyone who joins these people.

Do not mistake Gavin and Yvonne Frost or any of their followers as true Wiccans. They are a group of pedophiles and child rapists and nothing more! They have believed from the beginning that they could make Wicca into their own creation and have people follow the rules of their twisted version of Wicca and be called true Wiccans.

Wicca is NOT about child abuse and has never been! However, I find it alarming that so many in the Wiccan/Pagan community have let this book exist and have even participated in gatherings sponsored by them or featuring them as guest speakers.

It is true that no Wiccan I know would ever think to do such sick things to any child, much less condone it from another. No Coven I have ever heard of would permit such behavior, much less demand it and make it part of their initiation and membership requirements. I wonder, though, why it seems the majority of the Wiccan community has tolerated this book and these people for so long.

This is not what Wicca is about – not the ancient forms of Wicca. It’s this Neo-Wicca that seems to have introduced things by less than honorable people to less than honorable people that was never a part of the true branches of Wicca heralding from all corners of the globe. There is no excuse for tolerating these people, and I hope that any good Wiccan and Pagan who does will realize for their own good and those of all Wiccan children that their tolerance translates as their agreement with the Frost’s pedophilic ideas and actions.

I’d urge anyone who would ever consider joining any sort of organization that encourages you do things to your child or allow others to do things to your child to seek counciling. No intelligent, thinking, loving parent would EVER subject their child to such things, and any who would are just as guilty of child sexual abuse as the club that requires it.



Other Stories of Child Abuse That Should Anger Good Wiccans and Pagans
Do the Wiccan and Pagan communities really need more bad publicity? Is this what Wicca has come to?? Your actions or inactions decide!

September 8, 2008 - Posted by | Culture, Pedophiles Exposed, Religion, Wicca

12 Comments »

  1. Thanks for posting this information!

    I find it particularly disturbing that other authors seem to be OK with this, especially Christopher Penczack… after all, doesn’t their brand of Wicca require a male/female balance?

    BB ~DF

    Comment by DF | September 13, 2008 | Reply

  2. I’m surprised there hasn’t been a larger outcry in the Wiccan/Pagan community over it. I see a lot of articles on Wiccan sites condemning Catholicism for being so permissive of pedophile priests and articles about persecution of Wicca and Paganism through lies and fear mongering, but any time any person of the community says any bad about the Frosts, they are chastised and criticized for not abiding by the Crede. Aaaannnddd the Frosts do?!

    Comment by TUECAA | September 13, 2008 | Reply

  3. Doesn’t surprise me. After being around Wiccans in Jersey I realized that most are just playing pretend, putting on a mask to impress kids. I think I gave up Wicca mostly because I never met one who wasn’t just some, excuse my language, douchebag. Adults molesting teens in Jersey was basically what Wicca was.

    That and the sanctimonious moralizing about how everything they didn’t approve off was “black magick” and violated their fakey law of three.

    Still Pagan and Proud, but scumbags like the Frosts make me glad I’m no Wiccan.

    Comment by Rob | September 13, 2008 | Reply

  4. Rob, I didn’t know it was like that in Jersey. I know there are some serious issues concerning a Pagan organization in Australia, but only because an ex-founder alerted Dodia Fae and I to it. (Dodia runs the group I created, PACA: Pagans Against Child Abuse.) Thank you for letting everyone know.

    I haven’t delved too much into religion and child abuse yet because that will be one mighty big and sticky post and I just haven’t had the time.

    I know from some experience I had on PaganSpace.net that Wiccans can be far too forgiving and down right permissive of things like child porn and molestation. I no longer go to those sites because it’s just too stressful trying to make these people see what idiots they are. They even rabidly defended the Mormon cult recently in the news and refused to allow comments providing proof of child sexual assault.

    It hurts me to say it because of my friendship with Wiccans,but I’m always adamant that no one confuses my leanings toward Paganism with Wicca. They are hurting themselves with their hypocrisy the same way the Catholic church has done. They can’t see it.

    On a more encouraging note, I believe DF is about to start a letter writing campaign at PACA to let the Florida Gathering organizers and promoters know having the Frosts as guests is NOT okay. When she does so and gives me the link, I’ll be sure to post it here.

    Comment by TUECAA | September 13, 2008 | Reply

  5. SMP, I hope to have that done this weekend.

    As you know, I’ve been in an email “conversation” with someone on the BoD of the FPG (or maybe she’s just the secretary… her answers are far too rote for her to be anyone in the higher ranks…) I have yet to get an answer as to why they allow people like the Frosts to speak at their family gatherings. The only answers I’ve gotten are that they have a zero tolerance policy toward abuse of any kind to anyone and any abuse would be immediately reported to the authorities, and that the Frosts haven’t been convicted of any crime.

    The fact that they allow these people, who in their own words, in black and white, advocate and teach child molestation and ritual child rape to attend their gatherings just goes to show that it’s more of a passive-aggressive tolerance policy… a “so long as you haven’t been caught in the act” policy.

    I’ll keep you posted on what is going on…

    BB ~DF

    Comment by DF | September 18, 2008 | Reply

  6. And you have my fullest support, DF! I will post more about this issue here soon. It needs to be advertised as much as possible for the sake of those who have no idea by whom they are being entertained or encouraged to follow!

    Thanks for the awesome work on your end. She is SO complacent it’s annoying, frustrating, and infuriating!

    Comment by TUECAA | September 18, 2008 | Reply

  7. Exactly!

    BTW, I’m not sure you’ve had the pleasure of Gavin and Yvonne Frost’s blog…

    http://gavinandyvonne.blogspot.com/2007/08/frost-and-sex-intacta.html

    In this particular post, they try and deflect the furor about the ritual child sex onto the bit about breaking the hymen, etc. Some of the posts by their supporters are truly frightening, in that it reminds me a bit of Scientology. They focus only on what they are told to focus on.

    I just finished reading all the comments (Gods… it took forever!), and I have to say I agree with Rebecca Davis Winters post, “Well, excuse me while I go vomit at length.”. I also loved Bubba’s comment about the FROSTed Flakes. *snork!* Classic.

    I’ve posted a discussion in the PACA group, which I am going to copy to the main forum of PaganSpace and to the PACA network. I’m going to post the letter campaign a bit later.

    BB ~DF

    Comment by DF | September 22, 2008 | Reply

  8. Count me in on any campaign, it’s about time we Pagans started demanding accountability from the so called leaders in the community.

    Comment by Rob Taylor | September 22, 2008 | Reply

  9. 🙂
    I hope they catch them! I hope they lock them up for a long time! And you’re not just protecting children by posting a warning and a link instead of repeating it here some people who have been through traumatic experiences might be triggered by hearing those things.–THANKS I believe what you’re doing is good I believe your making a difference in the world keep up the good work
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    Comment by april | November 21, 2010 | Reply

  10. I Had A Chance To Visit The Frosts At Their Headquarters In Hinton, WV. I Lived About 20-30 Minutes Away. I Walked Into Their Store or Business And Was Told To. “Get The Fuck Out” Bu That Old Man. They Are VERY RUDE. I Know Very Little About Them, But To Be Elders In The Community, They LOST ALL OF MY RESPECT. And I’m Sure The Goddess Was Not To Please With Their Rudeness Either.

    Comment by Justin | October 10, 2012 | Reply

  11. What the book says is reprehensible and should have been retracted long ago. I will also say there is no evidence that Frosts ever done any of these things. If anyone has actual evidence, by all means go to the proper authorities and preset your evidence. If anyone was a actual victim again go to the proper authorities.This is a legal requirement of anyone knowing of actual child sexual abuse.

    We have gone recently though actual cases of people who in fact did do illegal things. I have no problem with exposure of actual illegal acts particularly sexual abuse against women, men, or children. But present the evidence to the proper authorities not the rumor mill. What is said about the book is true. But no evidence against the Frosts has ever been presented.If you have any such evidence than present it.

    Comment by Christopher Blackwell | December 5, 2014 | Reply

    • Christopher, you are correct. It is reprehensible; however, it should not only be retracted. Retraction does not excuse its inclusion in the first place. The simple fact it was included should alert you to the mindset behind it.

      People who do not molest children do not create books on how to molest children. I’m not sure how you became so naive, but I suggest you participate in some very real cases involving child porn authors. Your defense of them suggests you may have something to worry about, yourself. What that is, I do not know. I just suggest you not defend promoters of child rape too loudly.

      Comment by TUECAA | August 13, 2015 | Reply


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